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> <channel><title>Comments on: What can we learn from Cassatt&#8217;s demise?</title> <atom:link href="http://onproductmanagement.net/2009/04/30/cassatts-demise/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://onproductmanagement.net/2009/04/30/cassatts-demise/</link> <description></description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 01:34:13 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2</generator> <item><title>By: Hamm Oldham</title><link>http://onproductmanagement.net/2009/04/30/cassatts-demise/comment-page-1/#comment-35295</link> <dc:creator>Hamm Oldham</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 20 Oct 2011 00:02:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://onproductmanagement.net/?p=2166#comment-35295</guid> <description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;SuaBandida &#039;KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK to rindo o que estão me dizendo no msn&#039; o que é isso? :2sy http://t.co/95MMKp0B&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span
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class="topsy_trackback_content">SuaBandida &#39;KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK to rindo o que estão me dizendo no msn&#39; o que é isso? :2sy <a
href="http://t.co/95MMKp0B" rel="nofollow">http://t.co/95MMKp0B</a></span></span></span></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Emile Vaessen</title><link>http://onproductmanagement.net/2009/04/30/cassatts-demise/comment-page-1/#comment-27679</link> <dc:creator>Emile Vaessen</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2011 18:54:42 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://onproductmanagement.net/?p=2166#comment-27679</guid> <description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT @Sander_Schrijft: Italië staat aan de vooravond van de Giro onder hoogspanning. Duizend agenten doorzoeken het land http://ht.ly/4A9J ...&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span
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class="topsy_trackback_content">RT @Sander_Schrijft: Italië staat aan de vooravond van de Giro onder hoogspanning. Duizend agenten doorzoeken het land <a
href="http://ht.ly/4A9J" rel="nofollow">http://ht.ly/4A9J</a> &#8230;</span></span></span></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bill Campbell says, It all starts with great products! &#171; On Product Management</title><link>http://onproductmanagement.net/2009/04/30/cassatts-demise/comment-page-1/#comment-3525</link> <dc:creator>Bill Campbell says, It all starts with great products! &#171; On Product Management</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 02:10:57 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://onproductmanagement.net/?p=2166#comment-3525</guid> <description>[...] many well known examples of companies started by experience or knowledgeable people (e.g. Cuil and Cassat) that have failed to live up to expectations.  Once a company builds a great product (or service) [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] many well known examples of companies started by experience or knowledgeable people (e.g. Cuil and Cassat) that have failed to live up to expectations.  Once a company builds a great product (or service) [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: porkshank</title><link>http://onproductmanagement.net/2009/04/30/cassatts-demise/comment-page-1/#comment-3526</link> <dc:creator>porkshank</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:31:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://onproductmanagement.net/?p=2166#comment-3526</guid> <description>I find it interesting that someone (you) who has no direct contact or experience with Cassatt could sit at their computer, read an article in Forbes with a CEO of a company that just failed after burning through $70 million dollars (that is the real number) and think you could accurately diagnose why the company failed.  Having worked at Cassatt for 5 years I can say the forces involved with the companies failure had little to do with &quot;the Big Guys&quot; or customer adoption (although widely successful sales would have killed the company in a different way).The factors involved were more along these lines:
- The original company from which Cassatt was born, Unlimited Scale, which was suppose to be a cash cow that was to fund the cloud computing development was a bust, producing no real revenue (thus additional funding was required).  The 50 odd people that came with Unlimited Scale have few skills that were transferrable to building enterprise grade software.
- Three development sites with 3 types of developers and development styles producing quite a bit of internal angst.
- A &quot;go big or go home&quot; sales model.  If a customer did not present a million dollar plus contract opportunity it was not pursued.  Such contracts take time to close and the associated customers demand changes since no product perfectly fits each specific need and since they are paying a lot of money they want the changes or contractual obligation for the change before signing the contract (we spent 3 months making changes for NetApp which subsequently decided not to move forward with the contract).
- A continuous rollover over of &quot;top executive talent&quot; who could translate their big company successes to a small company business model - such people are not doers, they are merely sayers.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it interesting that someone (you) who has no direct contact or experience with Cassatt could sit at their computer, read an article in Forbes with a CEO of a company that just failed after burning through $70 million dollars (that is the real number) and think you could accurately diagnose why the company failed.  Having worked at Cassatt for 5 years I can say the forces involved with the companies failure had little to do with &#8220;the Big Guys&#8221; or customer adoption (although widely successful sales would have killed the company in a different way).</p><p>The factors involved were more along these lines:<br
/> - The original company from which Cassatt was born, Unlimited Scale, which was suppose to be a cash cow that was to fund the cloud computing development was a bust, producing no real revenue (thus additional funding was required).  The 50 odd people that came with Unlimited Scale have few skills that were transferrable to building enterprise grade software.<br
/> - Three development sites with 3 types of developers and development styles producing quite a bit of internal angst.<br
/> - A &#8220;go big or go home&#8221; sales model.  If a customer did not present a million dollar plus contract opportunity it was not pursued.  Such contracts take time to close and the associated customers demand changes since no product perfectly fits each specific need and since they are paying a lot of money they want the changes or contractual obligation for the change before signing the contract (we spent 3 months making changes for NetApp which subsequently decided not to move forward with the contract).<br
/> - A continuous rollover over of &#8220;top executive talent&#8221; who could translate their big company successes to a small company business model &#8211; such people are not doers, they are merely sayers.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Richard Tibbetts</title><link>http://onproductmanagement.net/2009/04/30/cassatts-demise/comment-page-1/#comment-4926</link> <dc:creator>Richard Tibbetts</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:25:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://onproductmanagement.net/?p=2166#comment-4926</guid> <description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;You&#039;d think a founder of BEA would know better how to compete with big enterprise vendors http://bit.ly/2NlFro #Cassatt&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span
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class="topsy_trackback_content">You&#8217;d think a founder of BEA would know better how to compete with big enterprise vendors <a
href="http://bit.ly/2NlFro" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/2NlFro</a> #Cassatt</span></span></span></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: The Long Tail of Cloud Computing? &#171;</title><link>http://onproductmanagement.net/2009/04/30/cassatts-demise/comment-page-1/#comment-3522</link> <dc:creator>The Long Tail of Cloud Computing? &#171;</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2009 02:35:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://onproductmanagement.net/?p=2166#comment-3522</guid> <description>[...] from a little less myopia, you will get the same type of message. In his concise post-mortem on The Demise of Cassatt, Saeed Khan illustrates a critical axiom that I think a lot of cloud service providers either [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] from a little less myopia, you will get the same type of message. In his concise post-mortem on The Demise of Cassatt, Saeed Khan illustrates a critical axiom that I think a lot of cloud service providers either [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Max Leisten</title><link>http://onproductmanagement.net/2009/04/30/cassatts-demise/comment-page-1/#comment-4927</link> <dc:creator>Max Leisten</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 01:56:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://onproductmanagement.net/?p=2166#comment-4927</guid> <description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;Great lessons learned from failed &quot;had everything going for it&quot; startup Cassatt:  http://ow.ly/4A9J (via @onpm).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span
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href="http://ow.ly/4A9J" rel="nofollow">http://ow.ly/4A9J</a> (via @onpm).</span></span></span></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: saeed</title><link>http://onproductmanagement.net/2009/04/30/cassatts-demise/comment-page-1/#comment-3524</link> <dc:creator>saeed</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 18:04:04 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://onproductmanagement.net/?p=2166#comment-3524</guid> <description>Max,Agreed. And that&#039;s why change is a &quot;process&quot;. Companies will change policies -- look at how SaaS applications caused companies to change their policies around how and where corporate data is stored -- but it takes time. It&#039;s always evolutionary and not revolutionary. Cassatt was trying to be revolutionary. A tough battle to fight.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max,</p><p>Agreed. And that&#8217;s why change is a &#8220;process&#8221;. Companies will change policies &#8212; look at how SaaS applications caused companies to change their policies around how and where corporate data is stored &#8212; but it takes time. It&#8217;s always evolutionary and not revolutionary. Cassatt was trying to be revolutionary. A tough battle to fight.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Max Lybbert</title><link>http://onproductmanagement.net/2009/04/30/cassatts-demise/comment-page-1/#comment-3523</link> <dc:creator>Max Lybbert</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 17:54:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://onproductmanagement.net/?p=2166#comment-3523</guid> <description>&gt;&gt; I thought I could give companies something radical
&gt;&gt; that had a proven return on investment, and they
&gt;&gt; would be willing to change all their companies’
&gt;&gt; computer policies and procedures to get that.&gt; Huh?  Give companies “something radical” and they
&gt; would be willing to “change all their policies” to
&gt; buy Cassatt’s product?Companies do eventually change their policies, but definitely not fast enough to make a sale.I also thought it was funny that he was essentially talking about something radical with a good track record.  I&#039;m not sure how to manage that, because &quot;radical&quot; often means &quot;too new to have a track record.&quot;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt; I thought I could give companies something radical<br
/> &gt;&gt; that had a proven return on investment, and they<br
/> &gt;&gt; would be willing to change all their companies’<br
/> &gt;&gt; computer policies and procedures to get that.</p><p>&gt; Huh?  Give companies “something radical” and they<br
/> &gt; would be willing to “change all their policies” to<br
/> &gt; buy Cassatt’s product?</p><p>Companies do eventually change their policies, but definitely not fast enough to make a sale.</p><p>I also thought it was funny that he was essentially talking about something radical with a good track record.  I&#8217;m not sure how to manage that, because &#8220;radical&#8221; often means &#8220;too new to have a track record.&#8221;</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Suhas Jog</title><link>http://onproductmanagement.net/2009/04/30/cassatts-demise/comment-page-1/#comment-4928</link> <dc:creator>Suhas Jog</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 12:51:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://onproductmanagement.net/?p=2166#comment-4928</guid> <description>&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_comment&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_twitter_username&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;topsy_trackback_content&quot;&gt;RT @onpm: High flying startup Cassatt is headed for oblivion. What can PMs learn from this? http://tr.im/k4zP #prodmgmt #pmv #innovate&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span
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href="http://tr.im/k4zP" rel="nofollow">http://tr.im/k4zP</a> #prodmgmt #pmv #innovate</span></span></span></p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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